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CHICAGO -- The never shy Todd Frazier had been focused on one thing: 40 home runs.I dont if you guys know, but hes been talking about it for a while, White Sox manager Robin Ventura said, smirking. I know Ive heard it a lot.Frazier picked a good time to reach the mark for the first time in his career, providing all the offense Miguel Gonzalez needed in Chicagos 1-0 win over the Tampa Bay Rays on a soggy Wednesday night.Frazier became the seventh White Sox player to reach the milestone when he connected off knuckleballer Eddie Gamboa (0-2) with two out in the seventh. Frazier is hitting .391 (18 for 46) during a 12-game hitting streak.Not many people have hit 40 home runs in a year, Frazier said, so its a good feat to have.Gonzalez (5-7) overcame a 1 hour, 16-minute rain delay in the third inning by throwing 25 pitches in two separate throwing sessions in the batting cage, determined not to have his last start of the season shortened.Im not sure what Gonzalez did over there in that other clubhouse, but he definitely didnt get out of rhythm, Rays manager Kevin Cash said.Gonzalez retired 18 of 19 before being lifted after Logan Forsythes one-out single to left in the ninth. David Robertson immediately got a double-play grounder to finish the three-hitter for his 37th save in 44 tries.It was a satisfying finish for the Gonzalez, who was released by Baltimore at the end of spring training and signed to a minor league deal in April. The right-hander became a key cog in the rotation and hopes to re-sign in the offseason.They were really good about letting me know when I went to Triple-A what was going on, the guys that were doing well or the guys who were going to get an opportunity to pitch, Gonzalez said. Youve just got to run with it and I thought I had a pretty good season.The game was also delayed by 21 minutes before the start. It was 57 degrees at first pitch and rain came and went amid blustery conditions as a tiny crowd watched Chicago win its fifth straight.The game itself lasted only 2 hours, 10 minutes, thanks to a dominant Gonzalez.Hes been great. He really has, Ventura said. You watch him battle and locate and its not rear back and blow somebody away. Hes got great movement and great control and poise on the mound. I love watching him pitch.Rays left-hander Blake Snell allowed one hit while getting five outs, but was replaced by Ryan Garton after the second delay.I wish that it didnt rain so I could have seen what would have happened, Snell said.Gamboa entered in the fifth and flustered the White Sox into off-balance swings and soft outs until Frazier pulled a 74 mph knuckler into the left-field seats for his 98th RBI.Gonzalez worked around Luke Mailes one-out double in the sixth to end the only threat by the Rays, who have lost six straight.The rainy, lengthy night capped an odd day for the White Sox. USA Today reported the front office has decided to retain the embattled Ventura, but the manager had yet to decide whether he wanted to return.Ventura deflected pregame questions about his future, saying any decisions would be made after the season ends Sunday.TRAINERS ROOMRays: OF Kevin Kiermaier (bruised left hand) was in the lineup after a two-game absence.White Sox: Lefty-hitting RF Adam Eaton didnt start, but played in the field in the ninth a night after returning following a three-game absence due to crashing into the outfield wall in Cleveland. I felt a little sore, but I was fresh, Eaton said. . 2B Tyler Saladino (back) missed his sixth straight game.PITCHING CHANGERays RHP Chase Whitley will make his first start in place of LHP Drew Smyly in Sundays season finale at Texas. Whitley, who has a 1.74 ERA out of the bullpen since returning from Tommy John surgery last month, is scheduled to throw 75-80 pitches. Hes deserving, Cash said.UP NEXTRays RHP Chris Archer (8-19, 4.02 ERA) tries to avoid a 20th loss Thursday night in his final start of the season as the teams conclude the four-game series. LHP Jose Quintana (12-11, 3.26) starts for Chicago. Bob Hayes Jersey . -- If this was Aaron Gordons final home game at Arizona, and it almost certainly was, then he went out in style. Kendrick Bourne Jersey . -- Five former Kansas City Chiefs players who were on the team between 1987 and 1993 filed a lawsuit Tuesday claiming the team hid and even lied about the risks of head injuries during that time period when there was no collective bargaining agreement in place in the NFL. http://www.custom49ersjersey.com/custom-d-j-jones-jersey-large-2658d.html . -- Playing time has been limited for Maxim Tissot this season, so the Montreal Impact defender made the most of his first scoring opportunity on Saturday. Charlie Krueger Jersey . They were putting most of their energy into a record-setting offensive display. Daniel Brunskill Jersey . Robredo, ranked No. 16, bounced back from an upset loss to Leonardo Mayer in the second round of the Royal Guard Open in Chile last week to down Carreno Busta in 1 hour, 25 minutes. On a day filled mostly with qualifying matches, fifth-seeded Marcel Granollers of Spain also entered the second with a 7-5, 3-6, 6-2 win over Aljaz Bedene of Slovenia, while Guido Pella of Argentina defeated Guillermo Garcia-Lopez of Spain 7-6 (6), 6-4 to advance. Should clubs use early picks on ruckmen? Can outside midfielders be snared late? What about key forwards? ESPN AFL draft expert Christopher Doerre has assessed recent history to answer the burning questions ahead of this years draft.Historical contextRuckmen: Good ruckmen can come from anywhere on draft day. There have been many rookie success stories over the years with Dean Cox, Aaron Sandilands, Shane Mumford, Sam Jacobs and Darren Jolly among the most notable.In more recent times, two big men selected mid-draft in Todd Goldstein (pick 37, 2006) and Max Gawn (pick 34, 2009) have developed into arguably the two best ruckmen in the game today.In the first round, Nic Naitanui (pick No. 2, 2008) and Brodie Grundy (pick 18, 2012) are among the better rucks taken inside the first round with Naitanui at his best as influential as any and Grundy one of the most exciting young rucks in the game.It is interesting to note that historically, the strike rate with ruckmen taken inside the first round is low. In some cases, with those taken in the first round, injuries derailed or shortened careers. In other cases, the players have not developed as expected. Justin Koschitzke, Josh Fraser, Hamish McIntosh, Matthew Leuenberger, Max Bailey and Matthew Kreuzer are among the most notable first-round selections to have injury-ravaged careers or have had their careers cut relatively short.In just as many cases, other rucks selected in the first round have not developed as hoped, with Ayce Cordy, Daniel Gorringe, Billy Longer, Matthew Lobbe and Shaun Hampson among the more recent underachievers. Since the 2005 draft, clubs have been relatively more cautions taking ruckman inside the first round.One theory with ruckmen taken early is that they are exposed too early to the ruck at AFL level. Others theorise that because tall players generally come into their own in their early to mid-20s, developing into their bodies much later, late-blooming ruckmen turn out to be the best ones. This makes selecting ruckmen through the draft a challenge, with clubs needing to project ahead and consider what the young rucks will be like in six-plus years time.To play the percentages, clubs would be advised to search for a diamond in the rough through the rookie draft, as -- other than exceptional cases where a ruckman is clearly better than everyone else available, such as Grundy -- clubs are better off spending time identifying the undervalued ruckman during the season and considering who has some attributes which may in time translate to success at AFL level.Key forwards: The better key forwards for the most part in recent times have come as either first-round selections or father-sons. Nick Riewoldt, Matthew Pavlich, Jarryd Roughead, Josh Kennedy, Jack Riewoldt and Tom Lynch are among the elite key forwards taken inside the first round. Jonathan Brown, Travis Cloke, Tom Hawkins and Jarrad Waite among the notable father-son choices. There are exceptions, with Jeremy Cameron selected by GWS as a 17-year-old and Taylor Walker joining Adelaide as a NSW/ACT scholarship holder at the time.There are also some productive key forwards who have come in the second round and even in the rookie draft. While there are always exceptions, the key finding in recent drafts is, a first-round selection is required to select a good or great key forward. There are still as many key forward misses as there are successes early in a draft, but thats the chance that needs to be taken, with correct talent identification key.Beyond selecting key forwards inside the first round, the key to selecting good tall forwards is about selecting superiority of talent. A suitable formula is to look for players who have points of difference, have the performances on the board (high mark and goal numbers) as juniors and have shown continued growth and improvement over the years (both physically and in performance, to suggest future upside). The more of these boxes that are ticked and the more convincingly, generally the more successful the key forward will be at AFL level, pending a good run with injury and good coaching, player development and veteran leadership from within the playing group to help support their growth and development.Key defenders: Like with key forwards, though to a lesser extent, a large portion of the high-end key defenders have been selected inside the first round. Alex Rance, Daniel Talia, Michael Hurley, Harry Taylor, Ben Reid, Darren Glass, Luke McPharlin and James Frawley are among those most notable names.With that said, there have still been key defenders taken in other stages in the draft who have had or are currently producing highly successful careers. Ted Richards (pick 27, 2000 to Essendon before being traded to Sydney where he established himself), Brian Lake (pick 71, 2001), Sam Fisher (pick 55, 2003), Michael Johnson (pick No. 8, preseason draft, 2004), Cale Hooker (pick 54, 2007), Tom McDonald (pick 53, 2010) and Jeremy McGovern (2011 rookie draft, selection 44) are among some of those names. Adelaide in the early 2000s did a superb job finding a highly successful key defence duo in Ben Rutten and Nathan Bock, who were selected in the 2001 and 2002 rookie drafts respectively. It just takes better talent identification outside the first round to pick the right key defenders.Increasingly, key defenders are asked not only to restrict the influence of their direct opponents, hold their own in the one-on-one contests and have the closing speed to stay with their match-ups on the lead. Today, there is a greater reliance on reading the flight and taking intercept marks. One-on-one marking and superiority of one-on-one body work is also a major ingredient clubs look for from their key defenders, with gaining of possession more advantageous than halving a contest, in contests where it is reasonably achievable.Given this understanding of the modern game and the history of where good key defenders come from in the draft, clubs should be looking for key defenders with strong marking ability who read the ball in flight to a high level and display excellent body work and one-on-one strength. In the junior ranks, the more talented key position players often start off as key forwards before becoming a defender - sometimes this will be in the form of a key forward making the switch back, in other cases it will be a key defender who takes lots of contested marks.If a club has a first-round pick and needs a key defender, the first round is a good place to be choosing to increase the chances of securing a key defender of AFL quality. Outside the first round, clubs would be advised to look specifically towards key position players with outstanding contested marking ability and body work, with a view towards developing them into key defenders.*With the following positions because of positional ambiguity and several players playing different roles or different positions over the years, several genuine stars of the game have not been included in the following examples, to simplify things and maximise the clarity of the analysis.Inside midfielders: Inside the first round, historically the safest draft day bets, and players with the greatest upside, are inside midfielders taken inside the first round.The key to drafting good inside midfielders over the years has been the selection of those who win a high volume of contested ball. It should come as no surprise that the following batch of first-round draftees were or are prolific contested-ball winners:Chris Judd (pick No. 3, 2001), Scott Pendlebury (No. 5, 2005), Joel Selwood (No.7, 2006), Patrick Dangerfield (10, 2007), Ollie Wines (No. 7, 2012), Marcus Bontempelli (4, 2013) and Patrick Cripps (13, 2013) are among the best choices in recent drafts.While clubs have had great success in selecting inside midfielders in the first round, it is not the only area of the draft that has proven successful over time. Sam Mitchell (pick 36, 2001), Dane Swan (58, 2001), Matthew Boyd (rookie draft, 2001), Matt Priddis (rookie draft, 2006), Robbie Gray (55, 2006), Rory Sloane (44, 2008), Tom Rockliff (preseason draft, pick No. 5, 2008) and Nat Fyfe (pick 20, 2009) among some of the better recent midfielders taken outside the first round.Among the notable father-son selections are Gary Ablett (pick 40, 2001 - father-son to Geelong before joining Gold Coast for the 2011 season), Jobe Watson (father-son, pick 40, 2002) and Josh Kennedy (pick 40, 2006, father-son, drafted by Hawthorn and traded to Sydney).So, while the strike rate is fantastic for inside midfielders taken in the first round, it is also possible, with correct talent identification, for clubs to find good midfielders anywhere in the draft or in the rookie draft. Particularly when the depth of midfielders available is strong.Outside midfielders: There is substantial ambiguity with outside midfielders because they are often asked to play on the ball, forward or back.With that said, in previous drafts, the more successful outside midfielders tend to possess a combination of good numbers, endurance, skills and decision-making. Some of the prime examples of this type include first-rounders Andrew Gaff (pick No. 4, 2010), Lachie Whitfield (1, 2012), and Josh Kelly (2, 2013) with Mitch Duncan (pick 28, 2009) featuring in the second round.The better outside midfielders for the most part are first-rounders. With that said, outside players taken in the first round can be high risk and often fail to live up to expectations. Most years there are outside players selected inside the first round who may have a few attributes that suggest they may develop into damaging players at AFL level, but dont tick all the boxes up to a high enough standard.With outside types, while the better players tend to come inside the first round, serviceable outside players can be selected late or in the rookie draft, which puts it down to whether clubs are willing to pay a lot for good outside types, orr settle for a lower level but still serviceable type later.ddddddddddddGeneral forwards: Like with ruckmen, general forwards can be found anywhere on draft day. There are some first-round success stories such as Cyril Rioli (pick 12, 2007) and Chad Wingard (pick No. 6, 2011) with some others transitioning over time into midfielders, though the list of misses inside the first round far exceeds the list of successes specifically when looking at those players drafted and developed to become pure forwards.There have been many terrific forwards selected outside the first round over time, with Stephen Milne (rookie draft, 2000), Steve Johnson (pick 24, 2001), Eddie Betts (preseason draft, 2004), Steven Motlop (pick 39, 2008), Michael Walters (pick 53, 2008), Luke Breust (rookie draft, 2008) and Jamie Elliott (prelisted as a mature age talent by GWS in 2011 and traded to Collingwood) just some of them.Given the success clubs have had from all over the draft with general forwards, it would be advised for AFL clubs to pass on forwards early, unless they project to become a midfielder, and take forwards after the first round or as rookies, with early picks not always needed to find good forwards.A good forward usually must have high levels of natural talent. Often they will be freakish at ground level, possess goal-sense and often possess incredible athleticism or marking ability with the performances and heavy scoreboard impact in most cases present during their junior careers.General defenders: Down back, there are also large portion of multi-positional types who can play to a high level and have featured inside the first round.Robert Murphy (pick 13, 1999), Corey Enright (pick 47, 1999), Nick Malceski (pick 64, 2002), Heath Shaw (pick 48, 2003, Collingwood father-son), Shannon Hurn (pick 13, 2005), Grant Birchall (pick 14, 2005), Easton Wood (pick 43, 2007 national draft), Brodie Smith (pick 14, 2010) and Sam Docherty (pick 12, 2011) are among the standout general defenders.With that said, there have been successful general defenders taken later in the draft and even in the rookie draft with Dane Rampe (2013 rookie draft) and Zac Williams (2013 rookie draft) two notable recent examples of general defenders who are by position two of the better examples in the AFL today.As with inside midfielders, if you want one of the better backmen, clubs can use a first-round selection to get one but with correct talent identification, good general defenders can also be identified later in the draft or as rookies.Dynamics of this years draftRuckmen: Only one ruck, Tim English, is likely to feature early. Views with English vary with some believing he will be the next Dean Cox given his mobility, accumulation of the ball around the ground and skills. Others view him as unlikely to be more than an above-average ruckman with below average strength and power, hands overhead that are not always clean and an unclear capacity to pose a threat forward of centre.On the other hand, there is substantial depth of ruckman later in this years draft with Rowan Marshall, Darcy Cameron and Oscar McInerney as mature-agers in the mix. Sean Darcy, Tony Olango, Max Lynch, Jeremy Goddard, Jordan Sweet and Peter Ladhams among the ruckmen from the under-18 competitions nationally may be considered for AFL list positions.From a historical context given the low success rate with ruckmen taken in the first round, and the strong depth of players available late draft or as rookies, clubs this year may be better off waiting until late in the national draft or in the rookie draft in their searches for a potentially developable ruckman.There is also substantial top-end quality of ruckmen projected to feature inside the first round in 2017 which clubs will also be well aware of.Key forwards: This years draft is a shallow for key forwards, with a lack of top-end options.Todd Marshall is likely to be selected in the 10-20 range as the first key forward selected. He has the talent, with several points of difference such as his cleanness at ground level at his height and his athleticism. On the other hand, he is not a sure thing with his production for a key forward matching up unfavourably by comparison to recent key forwards taken inside the first round, with only the 22 goals from his 11 TAC Cup games and just over three marks per game.Following Marshall, the strong-bodied Patrick Kerr may feature somewhere around the 20-30 range, though his numbers also are underwhelming with only the 12 goals in the TAC Cup from his eight games and relatively less pronounced points of difference.Josh Battle has also attracted interest and may also slot into the 20-30 range. His production and goal-per-game numbers are relatively better than that of Marshall or Kerr, with 24 goals from his eight TAC Cup games, but at 192cm his best position is less clear. He may possibly become more a third tall than a key forward at AFL level.With the key forward stocks lean this year and all having their various question marks, clubs may, if looking for a stop gap, consider SANFL star Brett Eddy if looking for someone who can immediately fill a list hole. Otherwise, clubs may wait until next years draft which appears to have a stronger group of key forwards towards the top end.Key defenders: Griffin Logue is this years top-rated key defender. He may fit inside the top 10 this year with Sydney rumoured to have strong interest.Athletically, Logue is excellent and has the strength to hold his own in the contest and limit the influence of his direct opponent. With that said, Logue is not a prolific contested or intercept mark, with only nine marks over four games during the AFL Under-18 Championships and from that, just the two contested marks. Therefore, a top-10 selection may be considered by some to be too early for Logue.From the second round onwards there will be other key defenders who may represent stronger value with Brennan Cox and GWS Academy talents Zachary Sproule and Harrison Macreadie potentially coming under consideration.Late draft or as rookies, Tyler Keitel and Matthew Sully as mature-agers may also enter the minds of clubs looking for a quick fix.Inside midfielders: One of the major strengths in this years draft is the depth of midfielders.There are strong options in the first round. In the second and third rounds, Willem Drew, Kobe Mutch, Jonty Scharenberg, Zac Fisher, Dylan Clarke and Jack Graham are among those who may and represent value. They each lack in one or two areas with speed, skill or in the case of Fisher, size deficiencies but each have the performances on the board that suggest they each may be able to contributes to a midfield group.Late in the draft and in the rookie draft, another tier down, there is a long list of capable midfielders with the performances on the board and some attributes of their own.Given this dynamic, with such strength and depth of midfielders throughout the draft, this year is as good as any to be selecting inside midfielders from any area in this draft.Outside midfielders: The outside midfielders this year are for the most part players who push forward, up onto the wing or back, or combine inside and outside roles through the midfield rather than pure outside midfielders. Potential top overall selection Hugh McCluggage may be the closest thing as the one outside player this year with the production, endurance, skills and decision-making to be an elite outside midfielder. Though with his finishing on goal and delivery to targets inside 50m so exceptional, he is just as valuable in the front half as he is up on a wing or through the midfield.This year, picking outside midfielders and multi-positional mids in any portion of the draft is discretionary based on whether clubs feel the players theyre looking at fit their lists and can become best 22 players, ahead of their existing group.General forwards: In the first round there is a long list of forwards who also have the capacity to play through the midfield. McCluggage is top of that list with Ben Ainsworth, Tim Taranto, Oliver Florent, Daniel Venables, Will Hayward, Jy Simpkin, Shai Bolton and Sam Powell-Pepper also possibly set to feature inside the first-round.There is also substantial depth of forwards in this draft class who could develop into forwards long-term. Ben Ronke, Lachlan Tiziani, Joshua Begley, Dan Allsop, Kym LeBois and mature-agers Liam Ryan and Willie Rioli are some of the forwards who may receive consideration in the back-end of the national draft or as rookies.Overall with the quality of forwards who can push up through the midfield in the first round, if someone who can rotate between the front half and midfield is required, the first round is the position to do that and this year is the ideal year to capitalise in the surplus of this type.Late and rookie draft is also a terrific place to be selecting general forwards this year given the depth and historically some of the names who have come late.General defenders: Projected top-two selection Andrew McGrath is likely to be the first general defender taken.Overall the depth of general defenders throughout the draft is high. Jack Scrimshaw likely features inside the top 10. Alex Witherden and Jarrod Berry may each be selected somewhere in the 10-20 range. Jordan Ridley, Jordan Gallucci, who may become more a half-back flanker in the AFL, and Isaac Cumming may feature around the 20-30 range. The depth of names are evenly distributed throughout all the way down to the latter rounds of the national draft.Given this dynamic, this is a good year for clubs to be selecting general defenders. There is value and options throughout the draft, with clubs having the flexibility to take general defenders depending on their best available preferences or around list needs with their other selections. ' ' '